Stevie, your response baffles me. I’ve provided a video of the interaction between these women, I’ve spoken of McGowan as a survivor of sexual assault and of Dier as a “trans activist” (although I see her more as a stunt self-promoter). I’ve included several paragraphs of transcript from the RuPaul podcast. I’ve defined the root of my objection in Dier’s behavior — and the reasons why I do — to wit: as a trans woman, I believe Dier’s actions paint us in the worst light. Frankly, I don’t know what additional context you would need to understand the piece.